DW Fic: The Coward's Way Out
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Title: The Coward’s Way Out
Author: Salienne
Characters: Jack, Ten, Master
Rating: PG-13
Disclaimer: Not mine, sadly enough. Then again, I don’t know if I’d ever get the guts to torture my own characters for a year.
Spoilers: Through LotTL
Summary: The Doctor speaks in a quiet, urgent voice. “Jack, I can take the pain away.” His eyes pierce those of his once-companion, and his stomach clenches in something like fear, but not for himself.
After a particularly gruesome torture session, the Master leaves the Doctor and Jack alone in a cell together.
A/N: Well I've had this fic hidden away on my computer for a while now, a collection of my thoughts about why Jack chose to stay behind and just how the Doctor would feel about that. I'm araid it hasn't been betaed, but I'm content with it and I hope you guys will be too. So... enjoy! :)
A/N 1:
wendymr pointed out that I wasn't entirely clear on Jack's motivations in this piece, so I tweaked it a little. I haven't actually changed anything that occurs or taken anything out; I just provided a larger peek into his thought processes. Hopefully things are a bit clearer now (and, obviously, work in the greater context of the story).
They are left alone together in a cell meant for one person, a hard cot in one corner and a toilet in another. The rest is smooth and gray and metal, and the light in the ceiling flickers. It smells likes detergent and sweat. Jack lies, exhausted, aching, on the floor, and the Doctor sits along the wall opposite him. The only sound in the room is Jack’s panting; he has only just come back to life. He pushes himself up, cringing.
“He’s still listening,” Jack manages, because it’s obvious and easy and this is the first time he and the Doctor have been alone in months.
For a long moment, the Doctor looks at him, debating. He swore on that very first day that he would have just one thing to say to the Master, just one, and it’s his own quiet form of revenge that he lets the other Time Lord hear almost nothing but his breathing and the silence of his thoughts.
Jack is right. The Master would hear him now.
But this is Jack, and if there is any one person aboard this ship who deserves something from him, it is Captain Jack Harkness.
“I know,” the Doctor says.
Jack’s breath catches, just for an instant. Then, groaning, he sits up and presses his lower back against the bed.
Another silence.
“I’m sorry,” the Doctor says, and Jack can barely hear him.
Jack feels an urge to laugh the apology away, to shake his head and reassure his old friend that it’s fine, he’s fine, there’s no need to be sorry.
He can’t even smirk.
“Thanks,” he grunts.
For nearly a minute the Doctor looks at him, and Jack wants to say something more, but with his mind still swimming in the aftershocks of torture and rebirth, he can barely manage to stay sitting up. The Master hasn’t fed him in nearly half a week.
“How badly does it hurt?” the Doctor asks.
“Doesn’t matter.” Jack lets his head fall back, closes his eyes, and ignores the ache in his neck. “There’s nothing you can do.”
The Doctor knows he’s right.
And in his mind, he replays what the Master—his own fault, his responsibility—did to Jack this time. Recently, the Master had taken to simply killing Jack a few times in a row with the screwdriver, apparently bored with his rechargeable pet. But today… today that was merely the appetizer. Today he’d come with a fresh appreciation for the slaughter, and creative as always, he’d been fully equipped with silverware, needles, his tie, candles, water, wires, and a pipe he picked up off the floor. Two and a half hours of that, and every moment, every scream, every drop of blood, every bit of sizzled flesh, the Doctor watched. He always watches.
It is his penance, his duty, and no one should have to endure that alone.
“Why did you stay?” the Doctor asks suddenly, surprising even himself. But he fears that answer, he has feared it for months now, and he has to know why Jack didn’t teleport away with Martha. He has his suspicions, of course, suspicions that terrify him, and he has to know that he is wrong.
“Oh you know,” Jack replies casually, not looking at him, “seemed like a good idea at the time.”
“Jack,” and his voice is so so tired.
Their eyes meet. “If I wasn’t here, what would he be doing to you? To Martha’s family?” He swallows, almost managing to hide the wince that follows. His throat is so damn dry. “I couldn’t go.”
Jack is well aware that the Doctor already knows all this, but besides his periodic chats with Tish and the taunts he exchanges with the Master, he doesn’t get much of a chance for conversation, much less for bonding, friendship, emotions, soul-searching. Hell, he barely gets a chance to sit down. And sometimes, just sometimes, a man could use a little acknowledgement, especially when he’s going through hell for the family of a girl he likes and a man who abandoned him because he felt wrong. A man he loves.
The Doctor gets up and, slowly, bent over with a hand on his thigh, makes his way over to Jack. He sits down and puts his hand on Jack’s shoulder. “Let me look at you.”
Jack smirks. “What? Couldn’t get enough of me from across the room?”
The Doctor almost smiles. “Stop it,” he says softly, fondly, and then he remembers. There’s next to nothing he can do.
But he can still try.
He lifts up Jack’s arm and bends and unbends it slowly. “This hurt?”
“Muscles are sore,” Jack responds. “It’ll go away in a few minutes.”
The Doctor nods. “How about this?” He probes a few spots on Jack’s arm, noticing the way the ex-Time Agent’s teeth grit together when he presses into the biceps.
“Like I said,” Jack grunts out. “Muscles. Sore.”
Again the Doctor nods, and he’s about to examine the next arm, then the back and abdomen, then the legs, when he realizes just how pointless this is. Yes, he can isolate the damage, damage that will fade and come back at the Master’s leisure, but what can he do about it? If anything, this is just some sick peepshow for the Master, watch the Time Lord torture the freak for free! He can practically hear the Master’s laughter in his head, and while it’s sickening, it is welcome too. At least there’s another Time Lord’s voice to hear.
The Doctor has an idea.
Oh, it’s dangerous, so dangerous it might have made him grin and bounce one day, long ago. But now, with the Master around, now there’s something real at stake.
He speaks in a quiet, urgent voice. “Jack, I can take the pain away.” His eyes pierce those of his once-companion, and his stomach clenches in something like fear, but not for himself. “Not permanently, but for a few days at least, maybe a week. But the Master won’t like that, and we probably won’t get to speak again, not like this.” He puts his hand on Jack’s forearm. “Do you want me to do it?”
Seconds rush by, seconds in which the Master could be storming down to the cell or chuckling as he watches them on some screen, and Jack doesn’t know how to respond. It’s not that he doesn’t trust the Doctor—he does, implicitly, even after all this.
What worry him are the consequences.
Tricky things, consequences. His entire life has been a string of neglecting them and being forced to remember. The first war he ever fought, he failed to consider them. Following that was the Time Agency, when they were almost all he was supposed to think about. Then his memories were stolen and he couldn’t have cared less, he gave them fleeting notice as a conman and a bit more with the Doctor. Now, on his own and with Torchwood, his life has revolved around them.
Nearly two centuries of nothing but consequences, and even on an airship orbiting a dying earth, he still can’t escape them.
If he does this, he won’t have to bear it all anymore, not hunger or thirst or torture or resurrections. He will be free for days, maybe seven of them. That’s over twenty deaths he’d barely feel, fourteen meals and countless drinks he’d hardly miss. But after that…
After that, he doesn’t know what the Master will do, and while there is no doubt that he will continue to see the Doctor at his torture sessions, any possibility of another meeting like this, no matter how slim, will be gone. Just swede, water, guards, Tish, the Master and Lucy Saxon for weeks, months, years, eternity maybe. What will become of him then?
More seconds, twelve, eighteen, twenty-seven, they’re past half a minute now, and the Doctor’s aged face is getting grimmer. Jack has to decide.
“Do it,” he says, and he doesn’t care that it’s the coward’s way out. For so long he’s been the strong one, the one who comforts others or decides it’s time to surrender a little girl to maras or lets himself get tortured so someone else is safe. From the Doctor to his Team to the Doctor again, it’s never just been him, and he is so sick of it. God, there’s no guarantee the Master would leave them alone a second time anyway, and he hurts. He fucking hurts.
Seven days free of hell.
The Doctor doesn’t hesitate. His fingers go to the sides of Jack’s face and the Time Lord closes his eyes. “I don’t have time to walk you through this,” he whispers. “Just trust me.”
After a brief resistance—this is his mind the Doctor is forcing his way into—Jack relaxes. Just trust me. He shuts his eyes. He does.
Then he’s sharing his thoughts with the man he’s loved for so many years and it’s warm and comforting but also swift and almost predatory. The Doctor is searching, rummaging through his mind like a conman through valuables, and Jack isn’t sure what he’s looking for. Then memories flash up, quick, like a malfunctioning slideshow, and they make his skin prickle, his head dizzy, and he can’t remember to be wary.
The slideshow runs.
The Master grinning with the laser screwdriver, pain in his chest, the gasp for life, blackness, his chest again, a shattering pain in his kneecaps, quicksand with Rose as his Doctor— the old Doctor—offers them a branch, holding Rose in his arms atop a warship in front of Big Ben, dancing with the Doctor, the army of gas-masked monsters, Taylor—bloodied and raw—screaming in agony, the first man he killed, his first drink, his first shag—both of them, Ianto, Gwen, Ianto again, that Cyberwoman, the Battle of Canary Wharf, Daleks in the sky, Toclefane, and more of the Master, so much more of the Master, and he’s staggering back into existence over and over again, shot by some idiot, by Suzie, by his team, getting trampled, falling before Asmodeus, before the Master. He gasps, his body spasms, and—
And he feels perfectly fine.
At some point his eyes drifted shut and now they snap open, staring at the Doctor. Slowly, the Time Lord pulls his wizened hands away. His brown eyes are calm, rimmed in wrinkles and shadow.
And Jack feels perfectly fine, like he could flounce across the room, like he has slept and only missed one meal and he could dance with the Doctor or chase down a Weevil if he really wanted to.
“Thank you,” he says, his voice hoarse, and his throat doesn’t even feel thick.
The Doctor does not respond. With the door slamming, predictably, open, he allows his legs to fail him and falls onto his calves. Then guards have grabbed him and pulled him up and shoved a wheelchair under him and others are ferrying Jack around but he’s able to stand up strong now. He even pulls his arms away from his captors once, twice, elbows one man in the face and almost knees another in the groin.
Because now he can.
Then both of them are being dragged out of the room and there’s the Master, grinning, humming with energy that only comes with a madman’s fury. “Ooh, never should’ve left you two lovebirds alone together, naughty naughty! And here I thought I could trust an old man and a freak not to bond. Honestly, it’s like Gallifreyan porn without Romana! Gorgeous figure on her, or used to be before the War. Last form I saw was so old and wrinkled, almost as bad as you! ‘Course you killed her then.
“And you couldn’t mention Martha Jones once, Doctor, not once? It’s like you sent her out there to die or something.” He winks at Jack. “It’s always fun, isn’t it, when a companion dies? Oh they always leave you, but when they just up and die you get to pick out another one! ‘Course this one, this one’s like a certain sanctimonious Time Lord who thought he could stop me. Just no getting rid of him, is there? Maybe I should try extra hard, see if I can’t get past that ‘no pain’ policy you’ve given him for the week. And after that…” He smacks his hands together. “Oh the fun!”
And on it goes.
To Jack is nothing but another annoyance, another string of deaths and hatred and almost nothing to offer him comfort besides thoughts of his Team and Martha and Tish and the knowledge that at least Rose, his innocent Rose, is safe. And it is the hope, quite often it is the hope, that one day, the Master will struggle for air and fall to his knees while his hands are around the bastard’s neck.
But that hope is an empty one, and even though it is frequently all that sustains him, Jack knows it is nothing but the darkest shadow, something he prays the Doctor did not see. He won’t do it, no matter how much he yearns to, he won’t, he can’t.
Because for the Doctor, the Master is hope. This hell, this apocalypse, it is just something to bear and forgive. No matter what happens, whom the Master tortures or slaughters, the Doctor will forgive, because he has to. Because at least now, the Doctor is no longer alone, stumbling through the silence of a fallen race. At least now there is someone to forgive him.
At least now—and they both know it, and it is so easy to see—at least now, there is another Time Lord’s voice to hear, and that Time Lord is worth it all.
Author: Salienne
Characters: Jack, Ten, Master
Rating: PG-13
Disclaimer: Not mine, sadly enough. Then again, I don’t know if I’d ever get the guts to torture my own characters for a year.
Spoilers: Through LotTL
Summary: The Doctor speaks in a quiet, urgent voice. “Jack, I can take the pain away.” His eyes pierce those of his once-companion, and his stomach clenches in something like fear, but not for himself.
After a particularly gruesome torture session, the Master leaves the Doctor and Jack alone in a cell together.
A/N: Well I've had this fic hidden away on my computer for a while now, a collection of my thoughts about why Jack chose to stay behind and just how the Doctor would feel about that. I'm araid it hasn't been betaed, but I'm content with it and I hope you guys will be too. So... enjoy! :)
A/N 1:
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They are left alone together in a cell meant for one person, a hard cot in one corner and a toilet in another. The rest is smooth and gray and metal, and the light in the ceiling flickers. It smells likes detergent and sweat. Jack lies, exhausted, aching, on the floor, and the Doctor sits along the wall opposite him. The only sound in the room is Jack’s panting; he has only just come back to life. He pushes himself up, cringing.
“He’s still listening,” Jack manages, because it’s obvious and easy and this is the first time he and the Doctor have been alone in months.
For a long moment, the Doctor looks at him, debating. He swore on that very first day that he would have just one thing to say to the Master, just one, and it’s his own quiet form of revenge that he lets the other Time Lord hear almost nothing but his breathing and the silence of his thoughts.
Jack is right. The Master would hear him now.
But this is Jack, and if there is any one person aboard this ship who deserves something from him, it is Captain Jack Harkness.
“I know,” the Doctor says.
Jack’s breath catches, just for an instant. Then, groaning, he sits up and presses his lower back against the bed.
Another silence.
“I’m sorry,” the Doctor says, and Jack can barely hear him.
Jack feels an urge to laugh the apology away, to shake his head and reassure his old friend that it’s fine, he’s fine, there’s no need to be sorry.
He can’t even smirk.
“Thanks,” he grunts.
For nearly a minute the Doctor looks at him, and Jack wants to say something more, but with his mind still swimming in the aftershocks of torture and rebirth, he can barely manage to stay sitting up. The Master hasn’t fed him in nearly half a week.
“How badly does it hurt?” the Doctor asks.
“Doesn’t matter.” Jack lets his head fall back, closes his eyes, and ignores the ache in his neck. “There’s nothing you can do.”
The Doctor knows he’s right.
And in his mind, he replays what the Master—his own fault, his responsibility—did to Jack this time. Recently, the Master had taken to simply killing Jack a few times in a row with the screwdriver, apparently bored with his rechargeable pet. But today… today that was merely the appetizer. Today he’d come with a fresh appreciation for the slaughter, and creative as always, he’d been fully equipped with silverware, needles, his tie, candles, water, wires, and a pipe he picked up off the floor. Two and a half hours of that, and every moment, every scream, every drop of blood, every bit of sizzled flesh, the Doctor watched. He always watches.
It is his penance, his duty, and no one should have to endure that alone.
“Why did you stay?” the Doctor asks suddenly, surprising even himself. But he fears that answer, he has feared it for months now, and he has to know why Jack didn’t teleport away with Martha. He has his suspicions, of course, suspicions that terrify him, and he has to know that he is wrong.
“Oh you know,” Jack replies casually, not looking at him, “seemed like a good idea at the time.”
“Jack,” and his voice is so so tired.
Their eyes meet. “If I wasn’t here, what would he be doing to you? To Martha’s family?” He swallows, almost managing to hide the wince that follows. His throat is so damn dry. “I couldn’t go.”
Jack is well aware that the Doctor already knows all this, but besides his periodic chats with Tish and the taunts he exchanges with the Master, he doesn’t get much of a chance for conversation, much less for bonding, friendship, emotions, soul-searching. Hell, he barely gets a chance to sit down. And sometimes, just sometimes, a man could use a little acknowledgement, especially when he’s going through hell for the family of a girl he likes and a man who abandoned him because he felt wrong. A man he loves.
The Doctor gets up and, slowly, bent over with a hand on his thigh, makes his way over to Jack. He sits down and puts his hand on Jack’s shoulder. “Let me look at you.”
Jack smirks. “What? Couldn’t get enough of me from across the room?”
The Doctor almost smiles. “Stop it,” he says softly, fondly, and then he remembers. There’s next to nothing he can do.
But he can still try.
He lifts up Jack’s arm and bends and unbends it slowly. “This hurt?”
“Muscles are sore,” Jack responds. “It’ll go away in a few minutes.”
The Doctor nods. “How about this?” He probes a few spots on Jack’s arm, noticing the way the ex-Time Agent’s teeth grit together when he presses into the biceps.
“Like I said,” Jack grunts out. “Muscles. Sore.”
Again the Doctor nods, and he’s about to examine the next arm, then the back and abdomen, then the legs, when he realizes just how pointless this is. Yes, he can isolate the damage, damage that will fade and come back at the Master’s leisure, but what can he do about it? If anything, this is just some sick peepshow for the Master, watch the Time Lord torture the freak for free! He can practically hear the Master’s laughter in his head, and while it’s sickening, it is welcome too. At least there’s another Time Lord’s voice to hear.
The Doctor has an idea.
Oh, it’s dangerous, so dangerous it might have made him grin and bounce one day, long ago. But now, with the Master around, now there’s something real at stake.
He speaks in a quiet, urgent voice. “Jack, I can take the pain away.” His eyes pierce those of his once-companion, and his stomach clenches in something like fear, but not for himself. “Not permanently, but for a few days at least, maybe a week. But the Master won’t like that, and we probably won’t get to speak again, not like this.” He puts his hand on Jack’s forearm. “Do you want me to do it?”
Seconds rush by, seconds in which the Master could be storming down to the cell or chuckling as he watches them on some screen, and Jack doesn’t know how to respond. It’s not that he doesn’t trust the Doctor—he does, implicitly, even after all this.
What worry him are the consequences.
Tricky things, consequences. His entire life has been a string of neglecting them and being forced to remember. The first war he ever fought, he failed to consider them. Following that was the Time Agency, when they were almost all he was supposed to think about. Then his memories were stolen and he couldn’t have cared less, he gave them fleeting notice as a conman and a bit more with the Doctor. Now, on his own and with Torchwood, his life has revolved around them.
Nearly two centuries of nothing but consequences, and even on an airship orbiting a dying earth, he still can’t escape them.
If he does this, he won’t have to bear it all anymore, not hunger or thirst or torture or resurrections. He will be free for days, maybe seven of them. That’s over twenty deaths he’d barely feel, fourteen meals and countless drinks he’d hardly miss. But after that…
After that, he doesn’t know what the Master will do, and while there is no doubt that he will continue to see the Doctor at his torture sessions, any possibility of another meeting like this, no matter how slim, will be gone. Just swede, water, guards, Tish, the Master and Lucy Saxon for weeks, months, years, eternity maybe. What will become of him then?
More seconds, twelve, eighteen, twenty-seven, they’re past half a minute now, and the Doctor’s aged face is getting grimmer. Jack has to decide.
“Do it,” he says, and he doesn’t care that it’s the coward’s way out. For so long he’s been the strong one, the one who comforts others or decides it’s time to surrender a little girl to maras or lets himself get tortured so someone else is safe. From the Doctor to his Team to the Doctor again, it’s never just been him, and he is so sick of it. God, there’s no guarantee the Master would leave them alone a second time anyway, and he hurts. He fucking hurts.
Seven days free of hell.
The Doctor doesn’t hesitate. His fingers go to the sides of Jack’s face and the Time Lord closes his eyes. “I don’t have time to walk you through this,” he whispers. “Just trust me.”
After a brief resistance—this is his mind the Doctor is forcing his way into—Jack relaxes. Just trust me. He shuts his eyes. He does.
Then he’s sharing his thoughts with the man he’s loved for so many years and it’s warm and comforting but also swift and almost predatory. The Doctor is searching, rummaging through his mind like a conman through valuables, and Jack isn’t sure what he’s looking for. Then memories flash up, quick, like a malfunctioning slideshow, and they make his skin prickle, his head dizzy, and he can’t remember to be wary.
The slideshow runs.
The Master grinning with the laser screwdriver, pain in his chest, the gasp for life, blackness, his chest again, a shattering pain in his kneecaps, quicksand with Rose as his Doctor— the old Doctor—offers them a branch, holding Rose in his arms atop a warship in front of Big Ben, dancing with the Doctor, the army of gas-masked monsters, Taylor—bloodied and raw—screaming in agony, the first man he killed, his first drink, his first shag—both of them, Ianto, Gwen, Ianto again, that Cyberwoman, the Battle of Canary Wharf, Daleks in the sky, Toclefane, and more of the Master, so much more of the Master, and he’s staggering back into existence over and over again, shot by some idiot, by Suzie, by his team, getting trampled, falling before Asmodeus, before the Master. He gasps, his body spasms, and—
And he feels perfectly fine.
At some point his eyes drifted shut and now they snap open, staring at the Doctor. Slowly, the Time Lord pulls his wizened hands away. His brown eyes are calm, rimmed in wrinkles and shadow.
And Jack feels perfectly fine, like he could flounce across the room, like he has slept and only missed one meal and he could dance with the Doctor or chase down a Weevil if he really wanted to.
“Thank you,” he says, his voice hoarse, and his throat doesn’t even feel thick.
The Doctor does not respond. With the door slamming, predictably, open, he allows his legs to fail him and falls onto his calves. Then guards have grabbed him and pulled him up and shoved a wheelchair under him and others are ferrying Jack around but he’s able to stand up strong now. He even pulls his arms away from his captors once, twice, elbows one man in the face and almost knees another in the groin.
Because now he can.
Then both of them are being dragged out of the room and there’s the Master, grinning, humming with energy that only comes with a madman’s fury. “Ooh, never should’ve left you two lovebirds alone together, naughty naughty! And here I thought I could trust an old man and a freak not to bond. Honestly, it’s like Gallifreyan porn without Romana! Gorgeous figure on her, or used to be before the War. Last form I saw was so old and wrinkled, almost as bad as you! ‘Course you killed her then.
“And you couldn’t mention Martha Jones once, Doctor, not once? It’s like you sent her out there to die or something.” He winks at Jack. “It’s always fun, isn’t it, when a companion dies? Oh they always leave you, but when they just up and die you get to pick out another one! ‘Course this one, this one’s like a certain sanctimonious Time Lord who thought he could stop me. Just no getting rid of him, is there? Maybe I should try extra hard, see if I can’t get past that ‘no pain’ policy you’ve given him for the week. And after that…” He smacks his hands together. “Oh the fun!”
And on it goes.
To Jack is nothing but another annoyance, another string of deaths and hatred and almost nothing to offer him comfort besides thoughts of his Team and Martha and Tish and the knowledge that at least Rose, his innocent Rose, is safe. And it is the hope, quite often it is the hope, that one day, the Master will struggle for air and fall to his knees while his hands are around the bastard’s neck.
But that hope is an empty one, and even though it is frequently all that sustains him, Jack knows it is nothing but the darkest shadow, something he prays the Doctor did not see. He won’t do it, no matter how much he yearns to, he won’t, he can’t.
Because for the Doctor, the Master is hope. This hell, this apocalypse, it is just something to bear and forgive. No matter what happens, whom the Master tortures or slaughters, the Doctor will forgive, because he has to. Because at least now, the Doctor is no longer alone, stumbling through the silence of a fallen race. At least now there is someone to forgive him.
At least now—and they both know it, and it is so easy to see—at least now, there is another Time Lord’s voice to hear, and that Time Lord is worth it all.
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Date: 2008-02-02 10:08 pm (UTC)well done!
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Date: 2008-02-02 10:21 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-02-02 11:26 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-02-03 01:59 pm (UTC)I love your examination of Jack's motives for staying with the Doctor, other than his simple love for him, and the reminder that they had no way of knowing if or when there'd be a resolution. But the real sucker punch is the way Jack accepts the Doctor's love for the Master, almost unbearable to read. This is a wonderful study of some of the painful themes skated over in LOTTL and it's going in my memories.
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Date: 2008-02-03 06:38 pm (UTC)While I can see the slashiness, I've never really understood how anyone could see anything good about being one of those stuck aboard the Valiant, whether you're just forced to wait on the Master or are tortured day in and day out (well, unless you're the Doctor, but he's a complicated case). I tried to show the sorts of emotions and interactions I believed would really be occurring here, and it seems that I have somewhat succeeded. :)
I also confess that although Jack's innuendos are a lot of fun, I very much prefer it when writers tackle his deeper emotional needs.
Oh, I definitely agree. While watching Jack get made over by robots was fun, for instance, I much preferred his goodbye to Rose and Nine. I watch (and write) for the more "serious" character moments and emotions, as well as all the complexities inherent in those, and I'm really glad I seem to have pulled it off here.
Thank you so much for all the praise (and the rec, o'course). Your comment has made me all happy and smile-y, and I'm really honored and glad that you enjoyed the fic.
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Date: 2008-02-03 05:02 pm (UTC)Beautiful imagery even in the horrors Jack and the Doctor were caught up in, and the last paragraph perfectly summing up the relationship of the Master and the Doctor so very well.
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Date: 2008-02-03 06:42 pm (UTC)I tried to show the "web" of relationships between the Doctor, the Master, and Jack in this fic (although particularly between Jack and the Doctor, clearly), and it's good to know I succeeded somewhat. :)
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Date: 2008-02-03 05:49 pm (UTC)I love the tenderness in that cell. Absolutely adore it. And I can see Jack's understanding of why the Doctor's willing to forgive the Master (even if I can't understand it or forgive it in the Doctor myself). The only thing I couldn't buy was Jack accepting the Doctor's offer. A week, pain-free, against never getting to spend even a minute alone with the Doctor again for as long as they're imprisoned on the ship? I can't see Jack taking that option. He seems to take the attitude to pain that it passes. He recovers and moves on. He seems to take pain as an acceptable price for something better. The man who chose to stay on the Valiant, knowing that he'd be the favoured victim of torture, wouldn't accept that offer just for his own sake.
I could see him accepting it, though, if he knew someone else would gain from it - for example, if he thought that being left alone with him to see the results of the Master's torture was too painful for the Doctor to bear. Or if, the Doctor having already made the offer, he knew the Master wouldn't let them have time alone together again anyway. So I just needed a bit more justification, that's all.
As I said, though, I loved the atmosphere, the obvious love between Jack and the Doctor, and the complete lack of any attempt to portray the Master as anything other than what he is. That I loved. :)
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Date: 2008-02-03 07:08 pm (UTC)You are perfectly welcome to disagree with that aspect of the fic (goodness knows I've disagreed with parts of the actual show), but here's my reasoning, if it might help:
Yes, Jack does seem to take pain more or less in stride now. Heck, he takes death somewhat in stride now. But just because he can do this doesn't mean torture for days and weeks and months on end wouldn't wear him down. By some point, he would want some escape, and maybe if the Doctor's offer had come at some other time (such as one of those days when the Master had just shot him with the screwdriver, for instance), he wouldn't have accepted. But he just went through hours of some really gruesome stuff that even I would rather not contemplate. The horror and the pain are just... too much for him right now, and at the moment, he is very very weak, physically, mentally, and in terms of will power.
Plus, this is an opportunity to be closer to the Doctor than he's been in, well, over a century. He has some idea of what the Doctor is planning to do, either from Torchwood or his travels with Nine, and on some level, he's craving for that closeness and comfort (especially with the Doctor, the man he's loved for years and years), particularly after being on his own except for lots and lots and lots of pain and the occasional kidding around with Tish.
Then there's the fact that this is the first time the Master has left them alone together in months--he has no idea why the Master is doing it and no reason to think that the Master will do it again. Sure, there's some hope, whether the Doctor does this or not, but there's no way to be sure. And that uncertainty makes the risk of never being left alone with the Doctor again seem smaller, especially in the state he's in.
So, to summarize a rather ranty rant of rantness, Jack isn't doing this for the Doctor at this point, and while he's thinking of consequences, they aren't what really drive him at this moment. What drives him is the here and the now and what's led to that here and now, and honestly, I thought he was allowed a bit of selfishness.
Perhaps I should try to make that clearer in the fic?
And, again, you are more than welcome to disagree with me. Different people, different interpretations. :) And thanks for sharing the criticism--lots of people would just skate over it or not comment.
As for all the things you did enjoy: they were exactly what I was aiming at, and I'm really happy that they came through and you enjoyed them. Thanks so much for the comment!
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Date: 2008-02-03 08:56 pm (UTC)Perhaps I should try to make that clearer in the fic?
Yes, and yes :) I can go for the selfishness, for the reasons you cite (and I hadn't picked up that this was the first time they'd been allowed to be alone together), and if that had been clearer in the story I wouldn't have had the slightest problem with it. Because the decision seemed somewhat out of Jack's normal behaviour-pattern, I wanted a reason for it - you've now given me that reason and I can buy it. A sentence or two in the fic to add to what's already there would have sold me on it there too :)
And *bawls again for the two of them* this hurts.
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Date: 2008-02-03 10:11 pm (UTC)Hopefully it works better now.
Also, here is a hankie and Jack and Doctor teddies, because the first is good for bawling and the second two are just nice and cuddly. :)
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Date: 2008-02-03 06:03 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-02-03 07:11 pm (UTC)Again, thanks!
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Date: 2008-02-03 07:17 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-02-03 07:28 pm (UTC)I think that's the core of the issue, really. The Doctor doesn't want to be alone anymore. And, hey, if the Doctor ever wants to be forgiven himself...
Thanks so much for the comment. I'm glad you liked the fic. :)
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Date: 2008-02-03 09:11 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-02-03 09:40 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-12-28 08:06 pm (UTC)...yeah, that'd be it. ::mems this::